hi,
i got myself a cortland 555 rocket longbelly wf5f, and i must say i dont like it one bit, its as stiff as a punkers' hair with an empty geljar...
if stretched its ok, but 30 secs on the reel and its all back
what your experience on this line?
as is im using my cortland classic sylk dt5f, but that aint too good with streamers
anyone know of a good wf5f longbelly that can throw a streamer and deliver a dry fly if needed? o yeah, it must be a supple one too
greetings
huib
Full Version: looking for a good wf5f longbelly
Wulff TT
Cortland Sylk
Couple or three ideas for you.
First, you're asking a little extra from a 5 if the streamers are big ones.
If the rod is fairly strong or fast, you could use the SA GPX, although it is about 1/2 line weight heavy, the front taper is fairly aggressive and should turn over the streamers OK.
I am a big fan of SA Ultra. I use it on quite a few reels as a "don't know what I'm going to find so might as well be ready" line. Doesn't seem to have any memory problems at all.
Rio's Grand is also a 1/2 wt heavy but a very fine line and would work also.
Not going to hammer anything here but I had a couple 555 floaters and had the same issues you are having. You can get around it if you don't mind stretching the line prior to use. Find a tree and tie it off and give it a good stretch and it shouldn't coil on you like that. I know you already tried that, just an idea. Between us, I unspooled both my 555's.
Cortland's Peach is a very fine line and has been over the years. Kind of a bamboo favorite also, it seems. I have a couple of those and have had no memory problems at all.
Have absolutely zero experience with the Monic lines so cannot comment on them.
I also have had good results with a couple Orvis lines. (sorry folks!) They have held up well and no memory at all.
Make certain that the line you end up with works for your waters. Some have been developed for cold water and get pretty wimpy on a real hot day; the tropic style lines do not like cold at all and so on. Match the line to the area and you should be good to go. FWIW, the generalist lines like the Peach, Ultra, Rio Grand, SA GPX and many of the basic Wonderlines should work OK just about anywhere you are going in fresh water. FWIW, I had pretty good luck with a couple Air Cel lines years back and the cost is pretty reasonable. Another idea is to check out the web specials on various suppliers such as www.hookhack.com and use the discounts to get a new line for less. I believe their line after discounts runs around 29 new if that's of any use to you.
Check the core on the line you decide to buy. Certain cores make the line have more "memory" than others. In cold weather it seems to me the mono cored ones tend to coil a little, IMO.
Dewey
Forgot something again!!!! Make certain your leader setup is right for streamers. Frequently a leader set up for dries does not have the butt and taper to lay out correctly with a streamer. Along with that, a really good streamer leader is going to slap the dries down if you're not careful as it is designed to turn over fairly aggressively at the end of the cast. Many times it is not the line but the leader that needs replacing.(I do realize memory isn't due to leaders, LOL) Play around with a couple and you should find one that works. If not, post and I'll give you my favorites for what those may be worth.
First, you're asking a little extra from a 5 if the streamers are big ones.
If the rod is fairly strong or fast, you could use the SA GPX, although it is about 1/2 line weight heavy, the front taper is fairly aggressive and should turn over the streamers OK.
I am a big fan of SA Ultra. I use it on quite a few reels as a "don't know what I'm going to find so might as well be ready" line.
Doesn't seem to have any memory problems at all.Rio's Grand is also a 1/2 wt heavy but a very fine line and would work also.
Not going to hammer anything here but I had a couple 555 floaters and had the same issues you are having. You can get around it if you don't mind stretching the line prior to use. Find a tree and tie it off and give it a good stretch and it shouldn't coil on you like that. I know you already tried that, just an idea. Between us, I unspooled both my 555's.
Cortland's Peach is a very fine line and has been over the years. Kind of a bamboo favorite also, it seems. I have a couple of those and have had no memory problems at all.
Have absolutely zero experience with the Monic lines so cannot comment on them.
I also have had good results with a couple Orvis lines. (sorry folks!) They have held up well and no memory at all.
Make certain that the line you end up with works for your waters. Some have been developed for cold water and get pretty wimpy on a real hot day; the tropic style lines do not like cold at all and so on. Match the line to the area and you should be good to go. FWIW, the generalist lines like the Peach, Ultra, Rio Grand, SA GPX and many of the basic Wonderlines should work OK just about anywhere you are going in fresh water. FWIW, I had pretty good luck with a couple Air Cel lines years back and the cost is pretty reasonable. Another idea is to check out the web specials on various suppliers such as www.hookhack.com and use the discounts to get a new line for less. I believe their line after discounts runs around 29 new if that's of any use to you.
Check the core on the line you decide to buy. Certain cores make the line have more "memory" than others. In cold weather it seems to me the mono cored ones tend to coil a little, IMO.
Dewey
Forgot something again!!!! Make certain your leader setup is right for streamers. Frequently a leader set up for dries does not have the butt and taper to lay out correctly with a streamer. Along with that, a really good streamer leader is going to slap the dries down if you're not careful as it is designed to turn over fairly aggressively at the end of the cast. Many times it is not the line but the leader that needs replacing.(I do realize memory isn't due to leaders, LOL) Play around with a couple and you should find one that works. If not, post and I'll give you my favorites for what those may be worth.
QUOTE(deweywh @ Feb 10 2006, 02:31 PM)
Couple or three ideas for you.
First, you're asking a little extra from a 5 if the streamers are big ones.
If the rod is fairly strong or fast, you could use the SA GPX, although it is about 1/2 line weight heavy, the front taper is fairly aggressive and should turn over the streamers OK.
I am a big fan of SA Ultra. I use it on quite a few reels as a "don't know what I'm going to find so might as well be ready" line. Doesn't seem to have any memory problems at all.
Rio's Grand is also a 1/2 wt heavy but a very fine line and would work also.
Not going to hammer anything here but I had a couple 555 floaters and had the same issues you are having. You can get around it if you don't mind stretching the line prior to use. Find a tree and tie it off and give it a good stretch and it shouldn't coil on you like that. I know you already tried that, just an idea. Between us, I unspooled both my 555's.
Cortland's Peach is a very fine line and has been over the years. Kind of a bamboo favorite also, it seems. I have a couple of those and have had no memory problems at all.
Have absolutely zero experience with the Monic lines so cannot comment on them.
I also have had good results with a couple Orvis lines. (sorry folks!) They have held up well and no memory at all.
Make certain that the line you end up with works for your waters. Some have been developed for cold water and get pretty wimpy on a real hot day; the tropic style lines do not like cold at all and so on. Match the line to the area and you should be good to go. FWIW, the generalist lines like the Peach, Ultra, Rio Grand, SA GPX and many of the basic Wonderlines should work OK just about anywhere you are going in fresh water. FWIW, I had pretty good luck with a couple Air Cel lines years back and the cost is pretty reasonable. Another idea is to check out the web specials on various suppliers such as www.hookhack.com and use the discounts to get a new line for less. I believe their line after discounts runs around 29 new if that's of any use to you.
Check the core on the line you decide to buy. Certain cores make the line have more "memory" than others. In cold weather it seems to me the mono cored ones tend to coil a little, IMO.
Dewey
Forgot something again!!!! Make certain your leader setup is right for streamers. Frequently a leader set up for dries does not have the butt and taper to lay out correctly with a streamer. Along with that, a really good streamer leader is going to slap the dries down if you're not careful as it is designed to turn over fairly aggressively at the end of the cast. Many times it is not the line but the leader that needs replacing.(I do realize memory isn't due to leaders, LOL) Play around with a couple and you should find one that works. If not, post and I'll give you my favorites for what those may be worth.
First, you're asking a little extra from a 5 if the streamers are big ones.
If the rod is fairly strong or fast, you could use the SA GPX, although it is about 1/2 line weight heavy, the front taper is fairly aggressive and should turn over the streamers OK.
I am a big fan of SA Ultra. I use it on quite a few reels as a "don't know what I'm going to find so might as well be ready" line.
Doesn't seem to have any memory problems at all.Rio's Grand is also a 1/2 wt heavy but a very fine line and would work also.
Not going to hammer anything here but I had a couple 555 floaters and had the same issues you are having. You can get around it if you don't mind stretching the line prior to use. Find a tree and tie it off and give it a good stretch and it shouldn't coil on you like that. I know you already tried that, just an idea. Between us, I unspooled both my 555's.
Cortland's Peach is a very fine line and has been over the years. Kind of a bamboo favorite also, it seems. I have a couple of those and have had no memory problems at all.
Have absolutely zero experience with the Monic lines so cannot comment on them.
I also have had good results with a couple Orvis lines. (sorry folks!) They have held up well and no memory at all.
Make certain that the line you end up with works for your waters. Some have been developed for cold water and get pretty wimpy on a real hot day; the tropic style lines do not like cold at all and so on. Match the line to the area and you should be good to go. FWIW, the generalist lines like the Peach, Ultra, Rio Grand, SA GPX and many of the basic Wonderlines should work OK just about anywhere you are going in fresh water. FWIW, I had pretty good luck with a couple Air Cel lines years back and the cost is pretty reasonable. Another idea is to check out the web specials on various suppliers such as www.hookhack.com and use the discounts to get a new line for less. I believe their line after discounts runs around 29 new if that's of any use to you.
Check the core on the line you decide to buy. Certain cores make the line have more "memory" than others. In cold weather it seems to me the mono cored ones tend to coil a little, IMO.
Dewey
Forgot something again!!!! Make certain your leader setup is right for streamers. Frequently a leader set up for dries does not have the butt and taper to lay out correctly with a streamer. Along with that, a really good streamer leader is going to slap the dries down if you're not careful as it is designed to turn over fairly aggressively at the end of the cast. Many times it is not the line but the leader that needs replacing.(I do realize memory isn't due to leaders, LOL) Play around with a couple and you should find one that works. If not, post and I'll give you my favorites for what those may be worth.
hi thanks for your elaborate reply
i use streamers up to #2 (tied lowprofile) my T&T 596 doesnt seem to mind
as for the leaders, no problems there , i knot my own, no worries there
as to overlining the rod(gpx, grand), i got a wf6f longcast by rio, and it does the job too, just dont like to overline the rod, still looking for that perfect marriage
the SA ultra is so so for me , i used to own a dt3f, it still is fished by someone, so durability is ok(going into its 5th year), just not memoryfree enough, its not too bad, but since i got the cortland sylk, i know how it can be, its just that the sylk doesnt like streamers or heavy goldheadnimphs, for presenting dries and relatively light nimphs its THE best there is
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