Well which is it.

I prefer mono hands down. I have fished Floro and been disipointed. With dry flys and also bouncing bottom for steel and it works for crap, more fish lost then I ever do with mono. I just cant figure why people like it so much, and it cost way to much.

You'll have to pry the 5X flouro from my old, shabby vest!

We fished two identical rigs last year right down to the dropper depth and flies used. One rig had 5X mono, the other 5X flouro. The rig with the flouro tied to the dropper caught a large majority of the fish.
This one incident made a believer of me.

It doesn't float like mono so I ight agree with you about the dries. Knots need special attention too... other than that, no problemo here.

That is wear I had my problems, the knot. What do ya do to make it work.

Flouro:
A pilch (sp?) knot works best for me tied to the fly.
Improved clinch's always snapped on the hookset.

Flourocarbon sinks. I never use dry flies with it. However, you mentioned that you fished for steelhead with it. I am surprised that you do not like it. I once stood side by side with a friend casting in the same hole, with the same fly, and same length leader. The only difference was that my friend was hooking steelhead and salmon on every other cast and I was not (he was using flouro 2X, I had mono 4X). You guessed it, the second I switched (after an hour of frustration) fish on. I continued to play with over a dozen fish after the switch. When nymphing for line shy fish THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE !!! I use different knots with flouro. I find that a uni knot works better than most. I also tie a triple surgeons knot (with a whole lot of spit). Mono to flouro connections do not hold as well as flouro to flouro connections IMHO. I never noticed losing more fish on flouro, however, I have noticed hooking allot more fish with it. Just my experience.

I've been trying to find the Pilch (sp?) knot on the web and I cant find it. I was taught this knot last year and was told the name. I never saw a spelling for it.
Does anyone know if this is the right spelling?

Search for the Pitzen knot.

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Jackster,
Thanks for the correction. It is a Pitzen Knot.
My ears are getting bad....

Hi all,
Here's knot link for those that want one:
knots
This is an animated knot link (kind of cool!) Click on the "View Animated Knots" button:
Animated knots

OK, now that demos are out of the way , I pefer flouro for sinking stuff (and steelhead!) and mono for floating stuff. Pretty easy except for cases where fish are rising but very leader shy. Being a contrary type, I tie a few dry fly leaders using flouro for the final tippet. (yep, I know it sinks). My rationale is this: if the fish are leader shy, then if I can make that last twelve to eighteen inches "almost invisible" then I should get more hookups. Right? I have used this on quite a few occasions and it works very well. I do not have any problems with the small bit of flouro "drowning" a dry fly and the hookups seem to increase. I can also generally go one tippet size heavier with the flouro and do fine. JMO.
Dewey

Dewey, I always wondered if flouro as tippet would eliminate the surface tension 'footprint' of regular mono. What say ye?

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Hi all,
Jackster, yep. That's what I tie those up for. Makes the last 12-18" or so disappear.
Dewey

if mono gets hot like in the trunk of the car in the summer it is not worth much. fluoro has a better shelf life. mike w

Eh, mono is mono, Frog's Hair is mono, so......but to each his own. I like alot of stuff that rationale says I shouldn't. If it works for ya, shazam.....

FC works pretty darned well for dry fly leaders. The lack of a footprint and it's diminished visibility recently made a pretty appreciable difference for me on some VERY fussy fish on Penns Creek. It *could* be coincidence, but it seemed to me to be the difference between fish or no fish. IE, once I tied on an FC tippet, i was into them.

That said, do this for yourself. Cut a foot of 5x mono and a foot of 5x FC. Tie em both to a pencil, clamp a split shot onto the other end, and lay the pencil across the top of the glass. IE, drop the shot and tippet into a pint glass full of water, suspended by the pencil. Draw your own conclusions. Here's mine:

The FC *is* less visible. Barely. I dunno. I guess it makes a diff. It seems to under certain circumstances. YOu can see the diff in the experiment, but it truly seems like shades of gray and degrees of seperation...........

I am now using Frog Hair and a true believer in its capability. Lays out on the water nice and it's got a ton of strength compared to other leaders/tippet material. I have also caught a ton of fish in slow moving water which is usually difficult because the fish have a tendency to pick up on the leader. Go with Frog Hair!

Ron

Agreed! Mono IS mono but some, like Frog Hair, are superior because they are more supple, have more stretch and more strength per diameter.

Hi All...

Don't have a decent flysop close by and have to ordr online. So, if I want to test this stuff for myself, where do I find FrogHair and Flouro online at the same place ?

Thanks All,
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http://www.highcountryoutdoors.net/

Good, genuine people!

Hi Jackster...

Thanks, Jack !


Best,
5/0

It looks like the floro has it. I dont know how you guys aford that stuff, but if it works for ya that great. I will need to get another job if I want to switch.